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一 | 49岁堂哥被缅怀的本质是大众重新意识到阶级跃迁的艰难了。 Tarun Mansukhani recently brought the Kapoor family together in Dining with the Kapoors, a Netflix documentary that offers a glimpse into the lives of one of India's biggest film families. The Dostana and Housefull 5 director served as creative producer on the show, which was created by Armaan Jain.
In an exclusive conversation with Filmfare, he talks about how the private family welcomed the cameras into their home. He opens up about the emotional visit to Raj Kapoor's Deonar Cottage and reflects on the different worlds of stardom he has experienced, from working with Shah Rukh Khan, the Bachchans and now, the Kapoors.
Excerpts:
How did you come on board for Dining with the Kapoors?
Armaan and I have known each other for a while. He was supposed to assist me when I was trying to make Dostana 2. The film didn't happen, but we kept in touch. About four years ago, he approached me with the idea that he wanted to do something with his family and food. Back then, I didn't know the family as intimately as I do now to realise how important food was to them. We kept brainstorming over random ideas until Armaan said that he wanted to have one lunch with all the family members coming together and the camera shooting them.
My first reaction was, 'Good luck with that,' because I knew the family was very private. They don't like cameras coming into their personal spaces. Even Ranbir and Alia had a very intimate wedding. I wondered how Armaan intends to pull it off, but we decided to give it a shot. That's when the process of speaking to all the family members began. I sometimes accidentally call them actors, but eventually, you realise they are just Armaan's family. They all agreed without hesitation.
Was it a logistical challenge deciding who would be present for the shoot?
I don't think there was any Kapoor family member who didn't want to be a part of it. In a family that has always done this as a ritual, there was no thought of excluding anyone or avoiding certain members. The challenge was about dates. We asked everyone to give us 10 options and mixed and matched until we found one date that worked for all. After we got the family together, it was then about capturing the moments between them. It has come out well. After a point, they let go of the fact that the cameras were recording them.
What was your most surprising discovery about the Kapoor family?
I had a perception of what the Kapoor family would be like behind closed doors, and it was completely shattered. You often see them as big actors and stars but in reality, they are just a normal family. Reema Jain feels like multiple aunts of mine and Dabbu uncle (Randhir Kapoor) was like my uncles with his sarcastic remarks. How they interact with each other is how we are with our cousins. What shocked me the most was the normalcy within the family. Nobody was a big star at the table. Everything was just about being together and wasn't anything to do with the film industry.
How was the mood during the shoot?
It was a bit odd at first with the paparazzi waiting for you, making it feel professional. But you look around and realise it's all family. You are meeting, greeting and talking and suddenly you realise there is a camera. So it stops you in that moment from being yourself. But slowly, you start to go back into being who you are.
When Ranbir and others went into the kitchen, that wasn't scripted. Armaan was arranging everything on his own and the family just decided to help. Navya and Shaira were plating, somebody else was putting tadka somewhere or buttering naans. Everything was just moving. They are like a big mad unit together.
With the changing definition of stardom, how would you define a star now?
Everyone is trying to figure it out. Earlier there were clear markers of stardom such as fan frenzy, brand deals or box office hits. Today, with the way the world has changed, our perception of stardom is gone. There is no metric that has popped up for us to reevaluate. Today, everyone is a star and yet no one will ever be Mr. Bachchan, SRK or Salman Khan. I don't think we will ever see that kind of fan frenzy but there will be a redefinition of stardom. Then there will be a lot of other stars.
If you could create a Dining with the Kapoors style show again with another film family, who would you pick?
With the other Kapoors - Mr Anil Kapoor and his family. We are in talks for a second season and hopefully, will get to announce something soon.
Also Read: Exclusive:Tarun Mansukhani on Unbreakable Bond With Karan Johar & Priyanka Chopra’s Desi Girl Legacy。
过去二十年的爆发增长让许多人形成了一种错觉，就是阶级跃迁非常容易，因为在这个高速增长期内，抓到火箭，靠一代人实现阶级跃迁就是可能的，在互联网等行业，甚至大量出现了几年内阶级跃迁的神话案例。
今天拿着76个鸡蛋去大学，明天见面已经是身价百亿。
昨天在西湖边教英语，今天在纳斯达克敲钟。
几年前还需要辛辛苦苦客串客服聊天，几年后成就互联网帝国。
以上案例都是真实案例，甚至因为相关企业的发展而被广泛传播。
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大众虽然知道这是万中无一的幸运儿，但多多少少受到影响，虽然去不了纳斯达克，但努力肯干，当个小老板不成问题吧？当年阿里巴巴创业时不是一堆大专生吗？现在个个身价过亿，所以拼就行了。
年薪二十万普普通通的认知，也是从这里来的。
某种意义上，当代大龄剩女的一大源头也在这里，过去二十年的增长来得太快了太爽了。上一代是真的有很多女生嫁了一个程序员，几年内跟着阶级跃迁的。如果要讨论过去二十年的红利群体，这部分女性是一个很重要的群体。
直接结果就是，中国影视剧市场成为了爽爆全世界的爽文顶点。
你们可以去看一下日剧美剧韩剧，主流男主人公基本是医生律师警察消防员，非常典型的中产阶级。
但在中国影视剧里，霸道总裁是起步价。
为什么？因为过去二十年真的有无数白手起家的创业者，中国女生看完美剧日剧后连夜发出灵魂疑问，这也不爽啊，我姐妹都能嫁P8P9程序员，差一点的才找医生律师。
还记得前两年爆火的电视剧《三十而已》吗？
奢侈品店女柜员王漫妮，认为家乡的规划局小张主任是下嫁。
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规划局主任这种中层公务员，放日剧美剧里，除非是纸牌屋这样的政治剧，否则基本是剧情BOSS。
四 | 但在国产剧这边，霸道总裁是起步价，差一点那也要知名律师时尚杂志主编，大厂程序员普通公务员只能坐NPC那一桌。也就是美剧的中产，在国产剧里对应的是NPC。
所以大龄剩女为什么多，因为她们的正常标准，其实是“中产之上”。在任何国家，医生律师公务员这些中产都算前10%，但在国内婚恋体系内，这是万般无奈下的退让，俗称找个老实人。
这一切的源头就是过去二十年的高速增长，大量创业者程序员阶级跃迁，大量女性抓住了程序员潜力股也实现了阶级跃迁，新生代年轻人目睹了这一切，由此形成认知。
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阶级跃迁没什么大不了，年薪二十万也普普通通，三十万的彩礼不算过分，二百块的礼物算是抠门。
直到潮水褪去，价值回归，大家这才反应过来，其实79的眉笔都算贵了，对不对？
堂哥的境遇放两年前，评论大概率不是这样，很多人可能会吐槽他没成功。但这两年红利结束，大家就明白了，阶级跃迁真的太可贵，也太难了，很多家庭前赴后继几代人都没实现。
你父母在农村务工，你在北上广坐格子间，这叫阶级跃迁吗？NO，这不叫阶级跃迁，因为两者都是打工上班，只是时代发展让工作形式有了点差异，本质没有区别，都是只能靠工资收入对抗通胀。
前者难以在大城市买房，后者也做不到在大城市买房。北上广的星巴克，提供了一种阶层租赁，让你以为自己实现了阶层跃迁，留在了上海，但当你下班回到出租屋，遥望浦东的高楼时，你会明白其实没有。
事实是，你父母是普通人打工上班，你大概率也只能打工上班，没有人为你指引方向，也没有人能给你提供后盾。你的父母可能连志愿填报都需要你自己拿主意，你需要自己从无到有的摸索出一条赚钱渠道，这真的太难了。
记得以前我们报道过的东北麻辣烫桐庐快递帮吗？张亮和杨国福两个麻辣烫老板甚至沾亲带故。为什么宾县那么多做麻辣烫的老板，本质就是先有一个远方堂哥做麻辣烫赚钱了，你明明确确地知道这条路能赚钱，你也知道大概要多久能赚钱，你的父母也不会拦着你走这条路赚钱，你甚至能先去他店里当服务员学习赚钱，在目标明确路径可行的情况下，时机成熟，你终于开出了自己的店赚钱。
有人可能觉得这没什么，但只要看过勇哥创业的各种案例就知道这有多宝贵。
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许多人辛辛苦苦一辈子攒下三十万，开个加盟汉堡店半年亏完。
七 | 因为普通人对自己赚钱完全没概念，他可能打了很多年工，但不知道选址，也不知道客流，甚至没有现金流概念。
八 | 最奇葩的是我记得有个女的，她想做自己的奶茶店，并且就开在蜜雪冰城对面，她还觉得自己可以卷死蜜雪冰城。你说不加盟自己做，不加盟自己钻研，从上游采购到产品研发，一路下来成本也不低。甚至可能辛辛苦苦研究半天，最后产品没人买。
这样一次试错足以让你的一辈子积蓄赔光。
为什么张雪峰被追捧，说白了也还是提供了明确的路径指导，寒窗苦读十几年最后报个无法就业的专业，怎么办？
大家都听过影视飓风，其实当年B站有好几个做得很好的技术博主，但有的错过扩张时机，有的没有及时商业化。
什么时候该扩张？什么时候该商业化？什么时候要去卡什么赛道？
这些东西看起来没什么，但对于全速奔跑的人来说，这个时机的把握可能就决定了你能不能走到最后。
至于努力，这没有意义，因为走到赛场上的所有人都很努力。
只有真正拼过命的才明白，在拼命关头，一个有效的建议有多重要，决定你辛辛苦苦打工还是成功赚钱的，可能就在这一点。
注意，这里说的是有效指导，一些长辈所谓的“回家考公”“多给老板敬酒”“早点去公司扫地”“早点结婚”，这些都不算有效建议，甚至很多是版本陷阱。90%的长辈建议都是无效建议，所以年轻人不爱听，因为压根就没用，比如考公这种，说了和没说一个样。但这也很正常，因为长辈也是普通人，没有成功经验，他们也只能给出各种传了十几手的消息。
真正有效的，能帮上你的建议，往往只有自己成功过的人才能给出，很多家族看起来人挺多，但没有一个真正赚到过钱的，于是一打起来各种异想天开的点子，没人能提供真正具有长远性可行性的建议。
老一辈提供不了指导，新一辈又得继续肉身试错。
当代很多家族不就这个情况吗？
所以故事里的堂哥即便创业失败，大家也还是愿意给予尊重，因为他真刀真枪的两度创业，是真的有机会给晚辈帮助的。
如果他成功了，整个家族是可能被改变的，未来的晚辈，直接的帮助，间接的建议，收益无穷。
但他倒下，整个家族就可能又要退回过去那个志愿填报都填不明白，长辈考量长久最后得出一个考公的时代。
堂哥被大家缅怀，本质就是社会转向期的价值重新定义。大家发现过去普遍高估了自己，低估了社会，把成功想得太理所当然，把赚钱想得太过轻松了。
越是阶级跃迁艰难，大家越能意识到机会的宝贵，指引的价值。
书到用时方恨少，家到贫时盼英雄。
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